vr

a novel

Scott Alexander Gabriel Reiss

March 1996

This is a work of fiction. Any resemblance to persons living or dead is purely coincidental.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 1 March 1996
Subject: (no subject)

Would someone please forward the message where I thanked scaredycat for the technical help? My 'puter seems to have misplaced the file and I seem to have misplaced a paper copy. Scorn? Yes. Hatred? Yes. Loathing? Yes. You see I've read too many books. They are a depressing lot from Gulliver's Travels to Jude the Obscure. Also happinness and optimism are particularly American traits and my mind and adult personality was formed in Europe where I studied and worked and lived throughout my twenties. Nothing very bad has ever happened to me, but this is the way I feel. Many bad things have happened to you, but they do not seemed to have turned you into a mean drunk. But I can still respect an act of sheer will and courage. And I love great literature and strongly advise you to quit school now, write the Great American Rape Novel in exactly the style of your e-mail, but without the cheese of course, and you will be a millionairess in minutes. There is no book on the market anything remotely like the one you could write, not even in the libraries. Please do it before you get scooped by one of the camp de viol victimes in Bosnia. Why should I encourage you to do anything, Tyisha, except go out and get drunk and have unprotected sex a lot? Why would I want you, assuming I want anything for you, to go out and lead a successful life as a slimy lawyer and capitalist dog? True I am not a sis, but I haven't made much so far of otherworldly gifts and a solid middle class upbringing, have I? It's coming. I only promised myself to do as well as my namesake and conquor the world by the age of thirty-three. I still have another year to go and I don't think I'm pressed for time. I'll make this concession, Tyisha, if you need help in any arts and sciences or psych classes, I'll make myself available. From what I've seen at SU you may have no other access to world-class scolarship. Very few of the profs here have ever published in such a prestigeous literary journal as Les Temps Modernes. Berkeley is probably a better school, but whatknow. It's damn sure not of the calibre of the University of Strasbourg or the University of Freiburg. As you can see, I've trimmed the list to those who are participating. Don't worry about Corinne and Jeff. They are my friends irl and they know what they are doing. See if you can find another bad-ass or two to join, either irl or on some MOO. Where do you two MOO? Salut bisamme.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 1 March 1996
Subject: Must work tomorrow at six

Someone called in sick and I must get up very, very early in the morning. I can talk to you now for an hour or two. I'm sorry, but after 6PM OZtime will be too late. Please e-mail me if your free and we'll meet on the 'net if you like.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 1 March 1996
Subject: Tale of Two Cities

Your reading of the letters from my list serve was severely flawed. Either your English skills need work, or you didn't understand the cultural context (One of the letters was a spoof on a Dickens novel.) or my style is a little tough for you. When you misinterpreted that I said you had asked to join the serve, it is obvious that I'm talking about Nichelle. I don't really care why you don't want to participate, but I'm taking you off, of course. Please tell me if you receive any more mail, and I'll see that it's dealt with. I bought this 'puter to use essentially for e-mail, the MOOs, eventually to create a real list serve, writing scholarly research etc. I thought it wise to have a top of the line model because in five years this won't seem very big nor very fast. As to your silly threat about logging lambda, nothing worth logging ever happens on lambda, which is why I'm always in search of a MOO for the thinking man. If you can help me find one I'd be grateful. I'm going to try IRC as soon as I get my software upgrade. Besides I am neither a journalist nor a teacher. I wait tables, remember?

From: SAGReiss
Date: 1 March 1996
Subject: Foolish calculations

I've only just realized it's after 1AM here and I have to wake up in fewer than three hours. There's no point in my going to sleep. If you want to talk to me I'll be in the chat rooms. There may be a way of paging or locating a particular person. I don't know. I hope to see you and talk to you until 8PM OZtime.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 1 March 1996
Subject: Here I am

I'm in the Atrium restaurant at the table for ten.

From: scaredycat
Date: 1 March 1996
Subject: Re: Tale of Two Cities

i read it (the novel), and it wasn't to hard to see that you swapped the S and the T, i guess my english needs work. anyway, i didn't threaten you with anything, just thought i'd let you know. did you try the webster server (the one i gave you to check words)? it's a cute idea, esp if you need a defenition and don't have your dictionary around. i have a file some place about IRC, i can send it if you want. --scaredycat

From: SAGReiss
Date: 1 March 1996
Subject: Reading

I doubt the problem is your English. I just put that in there to tweak your big nose. The problem is more likely poor reading skills and bad reading habits. Reading requires extreme concentration and an utmost care to the details of syntax, vocabulary, rhythm and rhetoric, in short style. To do this one must never read on the screen, always off paper, in silence, no Pearl Jam blasting through high technology speakers with subwoofers from Japan driving your mother batty and you deaf. My style is very deceiving, very difficult to penetrate. It looks so natural, so idiomatic, as if I were talking, but if you looks carefully at the levels of stylistic variation, tone, irony, allusion, you'll see it's a technique just as studied as that of Proust or Faulkner. I know what I'm doing on a keyboard, and I've honed my skills relentlessly over the past eighteen years or so. It is a style which has an explicit esthetic and linguistic justification. It only looks like I'm improvising. I am not.

From: karen have a guess
Date: 1 March 1996
Subject: Re: Foolish calculations

dear scott,
thank you for your emails. i got home after work at 8pm australian time and just missed you on th line. got all your messages. do let me know in email when yyou're on again.
take care, bye for now, karen

From: SAGReiss
Date: 2 March 1996
Subject: Skeleton in the cupboard

Awake for more than thirty straight hours, I have decided to profit from your painfully-felt absence by telling you the worst thing you could possibly know about me, before you figure it out for yourself, as you will not neglect to do, sooner rather than later. Indeed it is a secret for very few people who know me and I would have told you myself (I did allude to it, but I'm not sure you took note.) except that I was so surprized and flattered that a woman of your calibre would be interested in a working-class bum like me, I was affraid to lose you before I even had a chance to find you. The expectations I place on myself are so high, as are the expectations others place on me (I have been known to both family and friends as Genius, if a troubled genius, for as long as I can remember.), that despite a certain cocky self-confidence (intellectual, sexual) I have felt like a failure for many, many years. The burdon of my middle name, Alexander, is such that I really think I have but one year left to conquer the world. Even my computer I have named Bucephalus in honor of this family tradition. Paradoxically, I feel I have at least an even shot at making good by the symbolic age of thirty-three, with BABEL in my pocket. Indeed I feel the brunt of the whole universe upon my shoulders, as something I must understand and explain to the world. The Nobel prize for literature is something which my family believes, and has long believed, is within my grasp, even if they understand nothing of the style I have created. They think: "If he would only stop doing that dumb e-mail shit, he could write a proustian masterpiece," but just as significantally I think: "If I can only show the world that Proust won't work for us anymore, they will understand that my e-mail and cybertext are a new kind of masterpiece." Indeed the simple pressure of thinking as hard as I do, concentrating with such intense mental discipline on the problem at hand, pondering the great questions of life from the moment I awake to the moment I fall asleep, mathematics at breakfast?" That's why I hate to dream. I feel that my mind is being cheated out of well-deserved rest. That plus the everyday loneliness, lack of love, from which you and so many others of us suffer suffise to create a symptom of terminal tension, guilt and shame. (This is a very long introduction, but I have a rule I have made for myself: once you commit something to paper [or the screen in this case] you cannot back off, you must send it.) I am an alcoholic. There, that was easy. If you can't love me because of that, so be it. Some girls can't. The Peruvian poetess hated alcohol, though she drank a fair amount of wine and was addicted to antidepressants. My ex-wife (I call her that, though we were never married.) once wrote: "If you didn't drink you would be perfect, and perfectly unbearable." You are a doctor so you probably have your own opinions about such matters as 200 gamma GTs. (That was the allusion I made to my problem.) Anyway I feel much better telling you this right away. You have had a chance to see the best of me, my brains, my erudition, my wit and my lovemaking, and now you see me at my weakest. I think I too have seen you both strong and vulnerable. I think I can take you with your faults. I wrote to my mother: "Last night I met the woman I think I will marry." I am not a man who doubts like Hamlet. I doubt like David Hume, who can still play billiards at two o'clock in the morning. Today this phrase came to my mind: "Dr Yung, would you like to become Mrs Dr Yung?" Words come to me like that. Flaubert had an almost mystical view of language which to some extent I share. Language does not belong to us. On the contrary we often seem to belong to it. I don't feel that my words come from me, but that they come to me.

From: CARLTON&PETRINA
Date: 2 March 1996
Subject: Re: Kicking ass

Oh,Jesus, SAG really! This is outrageous, even for you!

From: Nichelle
Date: 2 March 1996
Subject: The Great American Rape Novel

> And I love great literature and strongly advise
> you to quit school now, write the Great American Rape Novel in exactly the
> style of your e-mail, but without the cheese of course, and you will be a
> millionairess in minutes.

No way. Thanks for your confidence in my writing ability, though. There actually was a time when I wanted to be a writer, though this isn't the sort of thing I was writing at the time. It's just that I don't want to be immortalized as a victim. Can't you just imagine all of the calls from sleazy talk shows inviting me to come as an expert, book in hand, sit at the end of the couch with a bunch of weepy 19 year olds? No fucking way. If everyone in the world was like you, Scott and Tyisha and the rest of you, then I might just be able to do it. I might have a chance of being understood.

As for quitting school, I guess you just don't know me well enough to know about my other talents. You obviously have never heard me play the clarinet. Any beyond the talents, there is a whole lot more about me that you may get to know also, if we ever get past this abuse thing.

I'm not too interested in being famous. Rich, I could handle. Or at least richer than I am. I don't own a single piece of furniture that isn't made out of plywood and cinder blocks. I did manage to get myself some summer work, a night job playing musicals every night for two months. During the days, I may end up graduating with my degree (finally), whatever that means. It is strange, but I already have this feeling of completion. I wonder if I ought to get my masters degree. I often feel that the university is getting in the way of my education.

Oh, and I MOO on IdMOO where I am called Petrouchka and on Lambda, where I am called Nectarine. There are a few other places, but these are the important ones.

Nichelle

From: karen have a guess
Date: 2 March 1996
Subject: Re: Skeleton in the cupboard

dear scott,
thank you for sharing your "secret" with me. it does not make any difference in our friendship. I am a doctor and i do understand the vulnerability of human minds. but the difference of the word "am" and "was" would somehow be important. we, human have our weaknesses but to me you grow from your experience. (do forgive me... english is not my first language. my grammer is horrible) i understand you well. but......... you should be strong!! i have been lucky all my life. I would like to live a few lives in my short live time. There was a time I was very depressed (last about 2 years.......... my marriage) but one day i woke up and i decided that i could not live like that. i'm healthy (compare yourselve to those people in the war zone!!) and i should make use of my life...... it took me a while to see the light at the other end of the tunnel. but once i saw that light, everything looks so beautiful. you are ONLY 33. i know a few people who didn't go to uni until they were 30+. CHEER UP!!! make use of your life!! i know it is difficult and it'd take a lot of hardship but....... believe in yourselve and be confident. from your writting i can see an intelligent man with a wonderful creatative mind. don't waste that. i've got to go now...... a hair cut in town. ooups i'm running late. we are friends ok?! take care!! tell me when you're on and we shall chat again.
yours, karen

From: scaredycat
Date: 2 March 1996
Subject: Re: Reading

> one must never read on the screen.
not everyone has a printer.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 2 March 1996
Subject: Dr Geisskopf will see you now

I do not understand the West's obsession with youth. (From what I read in the papers twelve-year-old prostitutes are kind of big in the East.) I don't care about getting older. On the contrary I dread dying young, as I think I told you when you spoke to me about forensic medicine. I do however object to your ageing me by a year because of the strong symbolism of my thirty-third birthday. Remember Caesar looking at a bust of Alexander and saying that at such an age Alexander had already conquered the world? Chateaubriand also said that every generation had thirty-three years, the age of Christ when he died. I have five months left to equal my namesake. I am only thirty-two. And I was only thirty-one when I wrote the book I believe will be known as the first work of the third millenium. Why would you become depressed about your marriage five years after your divorce, if my chronology of your life is right? Anyway I probably fit the clinical definition of depression, but that definition is probably so vague as to include just about everyone. I told you that black bile dominates my personality and that Europessimism helped form my mind. There might be, however, some difference between life and art. (If you don't know, this is what I consider my art, but it could perhaps blur into my life...) I do sometimes laugh, though I don't smile because I lived for so long in Europe and Europeans don't smile like Americans. I do enjoy many aspects of my work, believe it or not. I do go to the pub and joke with the boys. I write and receive a lot of e-mail, though I very seldom see my irl friends for reasons that are obscure to me. I am certainly more bitter, more cynical, brooding, sardonic in e-mail that in on-line chat, which is a lot closer to real life. The internet is just blurring the distinctions between art and life (which have never been clear and with which all serious artists have always struggled) just as it blurs the distinction between written and spoken language. I have to go to work now. I should get off, and Can we talk then? I'll look for you in the 10-person rooms in the chat garden.
Rectum vinum.
Gaby

From: Brown_Sugar
Date: 2 March 1996
Subject: Re: The Great American Rape Novel

Nichelle,
Whatever helps you to cope better with your traumatic experiences you do because you want to. It is admirable that you deemed us good enough people to relate your feelings about the horrific situations that happened to you. Whatever you decide to do just know that I am behind you 200%.
Sincerely,

Tyisha

From: SAGReiss
Date: 2 March 1996
Subject: meeting

Are you sleeping or at church? Isn't the fourteen-hour difference right?

From: Francesca
Date: 2 March 1996
Subject: textes

Gabriel

i enjoyed the texts - hope to find them in print some time

best,

gash

From: SAGReiss
Date: 3 March 1996
Subject: I am a fucking idiot.

My whole fucking time sheet is off, and it's costing me your company. God am I a dumb ass.

NY: OZ
6AM: 8PM
9AM: 11PM
NOON: 2AM
3PM: 5AM
6PM: 8AM
9PM: 11AM
MIDNIGHT: 2PM
3AM: 5PM
I'm so sorry. I'm such a cunt. I'll just wait for you. I hope I'll see you in an hour's time. Actually I couldn't have asked you to wake up at 6AM on a Sunday anyway. A bientot.

From: Brown_Sugar
Date: 3 March 1996
Subject: Re: your mail

Now I realize why you are so fucked up. Help in Psych classes fuck you and what you are going through. I have never needed your help in the past and I damn sure do not need your help now.
Why should you encourage me to do anything? The truth of the matter is you shouldn't. I do not need nor did I ever ask for your encouragement or lack thereof. Going out and getting drunk and having alot of unprotected sex? I leave that up to your sorry ass. #1 I respect myself too much to do some shit like that, something you seem to be wholly lacking of. Why would you want to do anything for me? Did I ever ask your sorry ass to want something for me? I think not. You are no significant part of my life. As if you not wanting something good and productive for and to me would hinder me in fulfilling my goals. Or do you know what that word stands for? Probably not. Slimy lawyer?....You better check yourself Scott (Oh I forgot you are not black so you would not understand the black dialect) You better watch what you say to me because I will not be a slimy lawyer I will be damn good one and you better not forget it because you will need me one day and if you fuck up too many times with me you will fuck up with dealing with one of the best persons you have had the opportunity to meet in your entire lifetime. (No I am not conceited; I am convinced, and there is a difference in that as well....because you seem to have alot of trouble distinguishing differences.) Capitalist dog? Watch yourself Scott for you went way too fucking far in your insults by making such a reference to me. Do you know how many times my family and I have been screwed over by people who are staunch capitalists? No you do not, so before you go out doing all your fucking name calling do your damn research. Understand? Just because I want to be filthy rich does not mean I am a capitalist dog. If anything you are the capitalist dog wanting to be rich and "conquer the world". (Scary thought). Oh and another thing MR. Wise Ass....Not only is the University of California at Berkeley a better school it is a great school. Do me a favor.....if you are going to talk about something you better have your facts straight....and not just based on your damn experiences. Can you do that or will your expertise (right) and pride prevent you from doing so?
You see Scott, I think you have met your match because when you come at me with some shit like your asss just did I am going to have a rebuttal every single time. And if you can't take it then you are definitely not the person that all these people here believe that you are. Cause just like you don't give a fuck....take a close look and see if I give a fuck.Tyisha

From: SAGReiss
Date: 3 March 1996
Subject: Fatigue

Last night is a drunken blur. First I got slammed at work. Thirty room service orders is huge, horrible. I managed to get our more or less on time, around half past eleven, a nervous wreck. A few whiskies later I began feeling better. A loud fight with some foul-mouthed teenage girl helped me to unwind, but by the time I was ready to go to sleep I looked at my watch and it said twenty to two. I keenly saw the bootlessness of going to sleep with the alarm set for four. So in a drunken stupor I steadily charted a course of action. I ordered a sandwhich and put it in the oven to stay warm. Then I Mooed until four, ate my sandwhich with coffee, sobered up (I had only had maybe eight to ten drinks, so it was no big deal.) bathed, got dressed and calmly strolled to work. Not too bad. Yesterday I almost made a hundred and fifty dollars, today maybe one twenty. I should be able to pay the rent come Thursday.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 3 March 1996
Subject: Where are you?

I'm going crazy, my dear friend. Are you online?

From: SAGReiss
Date: 3 March 1996
Subject: Mr Wise Ass

Tyisha, if you're fucking with me, you're out of your league. I'm twelve years older and a lot smarter and better educated than you will ever be. Just ask Corinne and Jeff. Or you can check your school library for Les Temps Modernes, one of the most prestigeous literary journals in France, founded by Sartre and Beauvoir, December 1989. I think you'll recognize the name of one of the contributers. As for needing a lawyer (Bad things can happen to anyone.) I've already got mine, so thanks but no thanks. As for the person you all think I am, Corinne and Jeff know me very well irl. What you others think, I have no idea. When I go on lambda as a guest (I don't want to be a member of a dumb-ass MOO.) I use this description: "Small, mean, polyglot intellectual," which pretty much sums it up. Do you play classical or jazz, Nichelle? Oh and Tyisha, I'm pretty good in black English, 'cause I've spent almost every evening for the last year and a half in bars in the ghetto patronized by an all-black (except me) clientele.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 3 March 1996
Subject: A Printer

How could you not have a printer? Please send me your name and address and I'll order you a Hewlett Packard 5L Laserjet like mine. You're welcome. Gaby.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 3 March 1996
Subject: Stood up

I'm bitterly disappointed, crushed. In part it was my fault, since I fucked the time change, but it's now 7PM NYtime and I think it's 9PM OZtime. I'm very punctual. I'm always fifteen minutes early and almost never miss work or an appointment. Perhaps you don't want to talk to me. I don't fucking know. I'm on room service tomorrow morning so I'll be on the 'net at about 3PM here, which I think is 5AM in OZ. I'll be on for a couple of hours, so if you want to talk a little before work, that's fine. Please, please e-mail me to confirm. Also I'm not working Monday and Tuesday. E-mail me to say when we can talk, anytime day or night, at your convenience. What have I done wrong? Why does everything in my life have to fuck up so bad?

From: SAGReiss
Date: 3 March 1996
Subject: Very bad day

Well, I don't fucking know. We're going to have to find a new place to meet anyway. I can't afford MSN. I'm just checking it out during a free trial period. My real account, once I get a software upgrade and work out some the bugs (within a fortnight) my address will be sagr9@bergman.syr.vcomm.net, but we'll have to move to independant chat rooms or direct talking which I don't know how to do yet. I can't afford long phone calls either. I'm a poor man, not a rich boy. I don't really care. I don't care for money, or about it, but as Charles Bukowski says: "Sex and money seem a lot more important when you don't have any."

From: SAGReiss
Date: 3 March 1996
Subject: Silence

Sending you a blind letter just to wonder, what are you doing, thinking. Why do you seldom (almost never) write? Why do we never see eachother? I guess I'm not complaining, but I'd at least like to be able to explain to others how our weird friendship, if I may call it that, works. I'm constantly telling people: "My two best friends live within walking distance from me, but I haven't seen them in six months." Is there a reason for this? You never (almost never) even e-mail me. If I'm being indiscreet, please forgive me. Am I somehow terribly wrong and naive to call you my two best friends? After all, I thought of Sweet Lou and Calamity Kate as friends, but they apparently left without leaving a trace. I'd like to get Eric and Vanessa on our listserve... Just wondering...

From: SAGReiss
Date: 3 March 1996
Subject: Sleep

I'm so sorry, love, I must go to sleep. I don't understand what fucked up today. Do you know what the real time difference is? Do you want to talk with me? I don't know anything. I hate life.

From: Nichelle
Date: 3 March 1996
Subject: That's Mr. Wise Ass Sir, to you.

>Do you play classical or jazz, Nichelle?

Yes. And a lot of other things too. Tonight was the last night of the show (Big River) and I get to play a lot of Dixieland jazz, which is heaven for a clarinetist. You just squiggle around up in the nosebleed register of the instrument. Basically, I play the clarinet, and anything you put in front of me will be played well, with enthusiasm and soul. Period.

This musical has been a fucking disaster. Talk about actors who can't sing (though I doubt any of us musicians act well, either). Besides the out of tune singers, the bass player's instrument broke (the bridge slipped) on two different nights, the sewer backed up in the theater and the whole stage smelled like shit tonight, and the only amusing mistake was last night when the synth player accidentally hit one of those cheesy drum beat buttons at a completely imappropriate moment, and a disco beat started up during a slow harmonica solo.

Today I got toghether with an old friend who I haven't seen for a few years. He has thrown himself into the Spokane river on two different occasions, and it is surprising that he is sill alive. He tells me that I look as beautiful and tender and innocent as ever, and I said a few things that made his cheeks turn bright red, and the tension was magnificent. If only I had that effect on all men. Or maybe that's my problem.

From: Nichelle
Date: 3 March 1996
Subject: Mr. Old, Smart, and Well Educated Ass

> I'm twelve years older and a lot smarter and better educated than you will
>ever be.

And a thousand times more arrogant. Twelve years is a long time, sugar plum. I would love to hear about what you were doing when you were 22. (How old are you, Tyisha?)

>Just ask Corinne and Jeff.

Okay, I will. Corinne? Jeff? What's the scoop on Scott?

As for what I think of you... It goes against every instinct I have, but I actually kind of like you sometimes. I am convinced, however, that it would be a terrible idea to let you conquer the world. Are you with me on this one, Tyisha?

I also think you're pretty hard on Tyisha. Sounds like Mr. Grumpy Bear needs a nap.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 3 March 1996
Subject: Where are you?

Half out of my mind (which, as you know, is a very big place) with sadness and despair, I'm going to take drastic measures to find you. First I'm going to call you right now, which is about five AM NYtime and should be seven PM OZtime. Then I'm going to turn on my telephone ringer, which I usually have off because of my crazy schedule and hatred of the damned phone. I'll be at work for about eight hours and then am off for forty-eight. You can call me any time, anywhere day or night. I don't care if I'm asleep or crazy or dead. I can't believe in the information age we can't seem to stay in touch.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 3 March 1996
Subject: I'm a dumb ass.

Maybe this will make it easier. I'll give you my phone number. I'm so un-used to the phone that I can barely remember it. It's (315) 425-0388. Please call or e-mail or both. If not I'm going to steal a credit card and fly to Sydney.

From: karen have a guess
Date: 3 March 1996
Subject: (no subject)

i've got all your emails. i think you should cool down a bit. i don't think this is healthy. please leave me alone.

From: karen have a guess
Date: 3 March 1996
Subject: (no subject)

scott,
please cool down!!!!!!!!! i'm sorry but i think this is gettting out of hand. please leave me alone. i'm sorry. plase don't email me or contact me anymore.
karen. please

From: karen have a guess
Date: 3 March 1996
Subject: (no subject)

scott,
i believe i should explain everything clearly to you. i do like to chat with people, lots of people and all different kinds of people. and you are not the only person that ive chatted with. i would like to friends with everyone including you...... but please cool down. this is getting out of hand. OK?? please don't do this any more. PLEASE
karen

From: SAGReiss
Date: 3 March 1996
Subject: Won't bother you again.

No this is not healthy. You are a doctor. I should have thought you'd understand. We are all sick, with what Kierkegaard calls "The Sickness unto Death". Plato tells one of the most painful tales ever told when Socrates calmly drinks the hemlock and tells his friend Phaedo: "I owe a cock to Asclapius," the god of healing, for curing him of the disease known as life. I have a different attitude towards death which I have called the Alfred de Musset school of suicide. In our day he probably would have died from AIDS. I shan't be so lucky. I may be like my eighty-six-year-old grandmother, who has wished for death for nearly a decade, too tough to die. I'm a bit surprized by your change of heart (I would be a liar not to admit it.) and of course a bit disappointed. You kept asking me when I would be on line so we could talk. Perhaps I was a bit overbearing, a bit too bold, a bit too "daring" is the word we used. That's a habit I have. I like to push my mind, and other people's minds, as far as they can possibly go. Though I don't particularly like The 120 Days of Sodom (They lack the humour and irony of Sade's other works.), it is a worthy testament to a man whose mind simply couldn't be stopped, a man willing to shed the last bit of his humanity to see what his intellect could yield. I'm kind of disappointed in you too. I thought you understood the game, but I can see you still hold on to comfortable pillows like health and good manners. I have left all that behind, willingly and even willfully. I have destroyed my own career, my own language, my own self, in a fight to the finish with the powers of the human mind. That's OK. You're a big girl and as you say there are many other fish in the 'net. I too talk to as many of them as possible. Not many seem so promising as you did. It's a shame, but what can I do? I've turned my phone back off, which a big relief. Soon I won't even be on MSN so we won't meet up by accident. Another chapter in a weird and impossible novel which has the advantage of being absolutely truleaning towards the title "Rectum Vinum" for the sequel to BABEL. There is no such thing as safe sex, even on the internet.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 4 March 1996
Subject: Re: Mr. Old, Smart, and Well Educated Ass

That's a fair question, Nichelle. What was I doing ten years ago? In the winter of our discontent 1986, I was in my first year at the University of Strasbourg. I had already learned Greek, Latin and French and was struggling with German, a struggle which alas continues. I had already swallowed the whole corpus of English and American literature and was reading the French classics voraciously. I was already a confirmed alcoholic, who would read all day instead of going to class and then go to the Belle Epoque and get blind drunk. At Easter I wrote a seminal text on the comparative linguistics, prosedy and literature of English, French and German which remains as readable and as insightful today as the day I wrote it. I later incorporated it into a book-length study of the works of Jacques Lacan, whom you don't read in Psych 101, Tyisha, they don't want to give you the good stuff. I was involved, as I remember, in several fruitful correspondences, with my attorney, a high-school friend, with an otherwise married gf from the states and with a virgin called Carine or Karine. I would soon bed a thirty-something psychologist called Martine. I had no friends, a pattern which would continue until the present more or less, unless you count my friends in Saverne, with whom I have no more contact because they don't have e-mail, and Corinne and Jeff, whose relationship to me I have yet to fathom. I hope you are all sending eachother blind e-mail messages and wish you would invite other people on. I'm always trying to find new members. Eventually, when I get some money, I shall turn this into a listserve. As to your contention that I am an arrogant man, Nichelle, this is quite true, but not because I state the obvious truth. The fact is that I am a man of unmatched calibre, and everyone who knows me acknowledges this simple fact more or less explicitely, depending on their own jealous ego. That you are all very smart bad-ass bitches is also true. Why fight about it? My arrogance comes to the fore when I will never. I have suffered for it, particularly I got screwed at SU. Corinne, and to some extent Jeff, will let some things slide, but I play for keeps and I keep score. I am, or shall soon be, to SU what the Antichrist is to the Vatican. And I will make a lot of people very upset. Some of them will sue. So be it.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 4 March 1996
Subject: (no subject)

Send me fucking copy of that e-mail, beginning with: "I'm Surprized," or something like that, the one where I anzwered Rita about her help with the listserve. What do you think about all this? Talk you fuck.

From: Nichelle
Date: 4 March 1996
Subject: Literature and Music

Quick question, Scott? (to all of you, really) What is the appeal of literature for you? What do you gain personally from it? I read, but I don't have the kind of passion for literature that you seem to have. Lately, I have read mostly poetry and music-related texts. My real hunger is for music, I guess.

I gave up on writing. I have a need to express myself in words, to put my thoughts and questions into specific terms, to name them, to look at them from the outside. But I satisfy that need through my interactions on the net, and through a journal which I keep mostly as a form of self-communication. I don't write in an artistic way, not the way I once thought I would. Not the way I play the clarinet.

Do music and literature serve the same purpose? I see both as an expression of humanity. Ideas and emotions and experiences and interaction.
I don't feel that either writing or music can meet my expressive needs. If I have both, I come closer. What the fuck is it I think I have to express anyway?

I'm not sure, except that I have this burning need to express who I am, how I look at the world, what I think and feel and see. It is far stronger than my fear of being misunderstood. I want to take the hand of my audience and guide it, like a lover, to my center. I thrive on intimacy, and the challenge of creating an intimacy onstage with hundreds of people present is thrilling to me. I have found a way of opening myself up in front of an audience who is willing (sometimes) to experience a small part of me and appreciate it.

Is that it, then? The appeal of literature? To step inside another mind and experience the world in a new way?

Nichelle

From: SAGReiss
Date: 4 March 1996
Subject: Re: Literature and Music

I can see Jeff sitting there snickering and saying to Corinne (They live together.): "Watch. He is going to tear her undergraduate ass up." And of course I am, but it isn't going to be fun for me. If the university of Washington wasn't able to give you an education, I'll do it. It's free, in a sense, but it isn't painless and it doesn't begin with boosting your self-esteem. It begins with tearing down years of misguided misinformation from dumb-ass American schools. Corinne and I have the huge advantage of being educated in Europe, particularly in France, where the school system, the world's largest employer with three million civil servants, despite arguments and complaints which date back to Charlemagne, is one of the best in the world. First, for your musical education, I'll put you in the hands of Charles Ives. Please listen to his second symphony (my favorite) and anything else you can find. Almost fifty years ago Alain Robbe-Grillet, a fine esthetic thinker though I don't like his novels very much, said: "A writer is basically someone who has nothing to say, but has a way of saying it." Sam "Bam" Beckett took this so seriously that if he had lived another couple of years he would have published a hundred blank pages with "Untitled by Anonymous" on the cover, which is a very stupid thing to do, but an excellant metaphore. Just to show you how dumb your last letter is, you could fax it to AA&T and they would buy it from you to use in their TV ads: "Reach out and touch someone." I'm trying to explain to myself how a woman who could write such a brilliant and beautiful letter as you did before, could write such new-age doggerel. I think your unfortunate sexual experiences, if I may call them that, so galvanized your mind that even years of creative writing classes couldn't prevent you from writing simple, moving prose. Now let's look at the text. This is an embarassment to me, everyone on this list and most of all to yourself. What the fuck, I wonder, is self-communication? Do you fucking e-mail yourself or garentees you'll write this kind of gibberish. Writing artistically is what you did when, as Sidney says, you looked in your heart (He was joking, of course, he was looking into Petrarch's sonnets about Laure de Sade, a direct ascendent of the Marquis.) and wrote about those dudes roughing up your pussy. Yes, music and literature serve the same purpose, but it's not an expression of humanity, nor ideas, nor emotions, nor experiences, nor interaction. They have nothing at all to do with who you are, and certainly not guiding me, like a lover, to your center. I'm trying to refrain from making a tasteless joke here, as I've held back from all the things I could have said about playing the clarinet. Please admire my tact and honorable restraint. I'm not stepping inside of anyone else's fucking mind either. Art and science (They're the same thing as everyone from Pythagorus to Da Vinci clearly understood.) are an attempt by man to impose order on what appears to be chaos. They, like numbers, do not describe the world, they represent it. They, like numbers, are teleologically meaningless. When some asshole asked Bethoven what one of his numbers meant, he sighed and played it again, Sam. When someone asked Orson Welles, a brilliant man, what he felt was his strength as an artist, he said he could take absolutely any object and instantly know exactly the camara angle from which to shoot it. James Joyce said: "I care for nothing but style." I have nothing to say, but I know the way to say it is through e-mail of my peculiar kind and cybertext. There's a long esthetic and linguistic theory behind all of this, but I won't bore you, and myself, with the details. Lecture over. School's out. That's enough for right now, Mr Antichrist.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 4 March 1996
Subject: WWW

I'm very drunk, but god damn it woman you have got guts. to write me "the fine education received on on a living room floor in Edmonton" you are a big and tough woman. I admire you as does every member of thids net. I will twake up the finer points, where you are all wrong, tomoprrow. you will always win the moral batle but i will always be smarter than you. don't fight that that's the way it is.I like you very much and beleibve me this moo is going forwarword.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 4 March 1996
Subject: L'amour de ma vie

Salut,

Oui je suis deja amoureux de toi (On tutoie dans le 'net, non?) et du Cyberspace. Il m'a fallu tellement longtemps pour decouvrir toutes ces choses parce que (Ca va te paraitre etrange.) j'etais en France sans contact avec le monde informatique. Laisse-moi me presenter. Je m'appelle Scott Alexander Gabriel Reiss. Je suis americain, desole pour ton ami en taule. J'ai vecu a Strasbourg et a Saverne pendant dix ans. Si ton probleme avec une version anglaise de ta page est de trouver un traducteur, me voici. Je le ferais avec plaisir, mais je ne sais rien des ordinatrices, vraiment rien, sauf que j'en ai une tres belle qui s'appelle Bucephalus. J'aimerais tant te parler en temps reel. On peut faire ca au bistrot? C'est le soir en France maintenant. Je vais envoyer ca et continuer de me presenter dans une autre lettre en attendant ta reponse, si je puis m'y attendre bien sur.

Ciao.

Gaby

From: SAGReiss
Date: 4 March 1996
Subject: Moi

J'ai trente-deux ans. Je sais c'est horriblement vieux dans le 'net, mais que puis-je? Je parle anglais, francais et allemand et j'essaie d'apprendre l'espagnol au resto ou je travaille. Je suis un intello qui fais un boulot proletaire. Pourquoi? Et bien je t'explique. J'ai passe une quinzaine d'annees dans une douzaine de facs aux Etats-Unis, au Canada, en France et en Allemagne, mais je n'ai pas de diplome, meme pas un bac. Je me suis toujours foutu de ca. Je suis linguiste de formation et j'ai surtout etudie la linguistique textuelle et la literature comparee. Je suis ecrivain de vocation. J'ai un grand roman que je viens d'envoyer a un editeur. J'ai des espoirs. Au fait j'ai deja fait publier un article dans Les Temps modernes de decembre 1989. Est-ce que tu lis l'anglais par hasard? Si oui, je peux t'envoyer la traduction que j'ai faite d'un sonnet de Ronsard. Je crois que c'est beau. Bien je vais t'envoyer ca, puis essayer de trouver la discussion en temps reel au cafe. Salut.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 4 March 1996
Subject: Le Cafe Orbital

Madame, Monsieur,

Ayant vu un article dans le journal, j'aimerais savoir comment je peux parler avec les gens dans votre etablissement en temps reel.

Merci infiniement.

Gabriel

From: Keith
Date: 4 March 1996
Subject: Re: Sale of Two Titties

i have 200 fucking stupid e-mails
to read in 1 hour
and i dont dive a fuck about any of them
fuck this alot!
hi i sent yoiu sAReiss mail last week and it came back twice
what the fuck
????

From: Keith
Date: 4 March 1996
Subject: Re: Only the beginning

cynicism is good, even if it's spelled wrong..
why fight a way againmst it.it wont work
smile
and be cynical

From: Keith
Date: 4 March 1996
Subject: Re: Lovescript

why the fuck do you send the previous 4 letters below every thing yousend
i repl'd 3 times
i dont check this thing all that
much
sorry
anyway
hi y'all
by'all

From: Keith
Date: 4 March 1996
Subject: Re: Lovescript

why make fucking jokes if it makes you wince inside
if it's not funny, if it's fucked up why say it and pretend to laugh
???

From: SAGReiss
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: WWW

I found the fucking web site and it's great. The first person whose home page I opened is this beautiful Arab girl screaming anti-American propaganda about some political prisoner in Pennsylvania. I e-mailed her immediately. This is so fucking amazing. Fuck MSN. These people even have a fucking blue ribbon on their net to show support for freedom of speech on the net. Minor problem, I think they want me to pay to connect. Fuck that, I'll just e-mail people (I signed their log book so I should be receiving e-mail too.) and meet them on the French MOO. Freedom of speech, but you have to pay. Yeah right. Why Jeff are you still jerking off in school instead of being a man and figuring out how to get us on the motherfucking web? Oh and another thing, I'll joke about whatever the fuck I want. The alternative is too painful. I just had my screen freeze and had to copy by hand and reboot. I check the mail and the fucking publisher has written me. They gave me their web address and I can see these are the guys for me. All of the shit they publish is cyberporn. I am elated, exstatic and have tomorrow off too. You don't see, when you enter here ("Abandon all hope ye who enter here.") some fascist disclaimer like when you go to the sex rooms at MSN. I was in a room creating a terrible brawl, no this was before the brawl and there was nobody on the net and I joked: "There must be a secret sex room which we're too dumb enough to know about." That was no joke. I just discovered it, and it was packed. These people are fucked. I just can't wait till I get my new software package. Then we'll move to my other address, which is either bergman.net or fellini.net I'm not sure and there may still be a few bugs amd I often can't get on at night. I'll use either this account or a Delphi account as a backup. I haven't decided yet. I don't know MSN's prices, but Delphi is pretty cheap at non-business hours, $20 for 20 hours plus $1.80 per additional off-peak hour. I wish these fuckers would e-mail me. I'm

From: SAGReiss
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Recent submission

Sir or Madam,

Having terrible problems with my cheap, uncensored direct internet provider, I have three e-mail addresses, some of which may work, one of which with the fascist Microsoft Network. The latter is probably only temporary. I recently sent you an extract from a cyberporn e-novel called BABEL. I have just visited your web site and think we would make a great team. The only problem is that my text is not typed and double-spaced because it deals so much with the physical, technical, technological act of writing that it would make no sense at all to eliminate its multi-media format. Eventually different fonts and points could reproduce the different types of writing. Please tell me if you are aware of my submission and are still interested.

Thank you so much for your consideration.

Faithfully,

Scott Alexander Gabriel Reiss

From: CARLTON&PETRINA
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: Lovescript

He sure has a way with words, doesnt he?

From: SuzMo
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: racy chats

where can i find the large selections of chats that kind that AOL offers (without going over to that overpriced cash cow). Looking for all those racy ones... alt.sex;blkm4whtw;mmfsf, bdsm, etc. etc. etc. post or email me

From: SAGReiss
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: racy chats

Use telnet to go to lambda.parc.xerox.com 8888 and connect as a guest. do @gender female and then @describe me as <description> and the @go #53011. this is the sex room and you're on your own from there.Another possibility is that you tell me something about yourself and perhaps i'll put you on an informal listserve I have. You're welcome.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: Lovescript

He is my fucking best friend and a very good writer and an honest man. Fuck you whoever the fuck you are, Carlton and Petrina. I have no idea how you got on here. Who the fuck are you?

From: Loretta
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: Lovescript

who are you?

From: Loretta
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: Sale of Two Titties

who are you guys?

From: SAGReiss
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: Sale of Two Titties

We are not guys, except for me and Jeff. All the others are women. We met, Loretta, on lambda about six months ago. You gave me your e-mail address (which I'd like you to confirm, should you wish to become a member of this list) at that time. I don't know much of anything about most of the people on here. Corinne and Jeff are my best friends irl. I know them. The others are probably college girls interested in what a bad-ass intellectual has to say. This is very experimental. It's going to become a Web site and listserve as soon as Jeff gets off his ass and tells Jude, the Obscure One, to come over to my house and help me set it up. Donde es la Comecabra, amiga?

From: SAGReiss
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Horse training

I'm not sure why you wanted me to e-mail you except perhaps that there are as few men who know how to do cybersex right as know how do it right irl. My name is Scott Alexander Gabriel Reiss. I'm 32m. I usually describe myself on internet sights as <small, mean, polyglot intellectual> which pretty much tells the tale. What else do you want to know? Tell me something about yourself.

From: Nichelle
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: Literature and Music

> If the university of
> Washington wasn't able to give you an education, I'll do it. It's free, in a
> sense, but it isn't painless and it doesn't begin with boosting your
> self-esteem.

That's how the learning process generally works. It's sharp and quick, like touching your hand to a hot stove. And, by the way, I don't attend the Univeristy of Washington. There isn't much danger of you damaging my self-esteem. You know that I'm not fragile.

> First, for your musical education, I'll put you in the hands of Charles
> Ives. Please listen to his second symphony (my favorite) and anything else you
> can find.

Okay, I will. I am familiar with the music of Charles Ives... what is it you think I'll gain from listening to him? If you're going to guide my musical education, don't you think you ought to tell me these things?

>Almost fifty years ago Alain Robbe-Grillet, a fine esthetic thinker
> though I don't like his novels very much, said: "A writer is basically someone
> who has nothing to say, but has a way of saying it." Sam "Bam" Beckett took
> this so seriously that if he had lived another couple of years he would have
> published a hundred blank pages with "Untitled by Anonymous" on the cover,
> which is a very stupid thing to do, but an excellant metaphore.

What about John Cage, who wrote a piece of music with no notes, or Robert Rauschenberg painting white canvases with white paint? The idea is that there is no such thing as silence, that every noise and sound has meaning, musically at least. When you publish a blank book with blank pages doesn't say nothing, it makes a statement, it has meaning. The lights in the gallery where Rauschenberg's white paintings were displayed cast shadows on the canvas.

> Yes, music and
> literature serve the same purpose, but it's not an expression of humanity, nor
> ideas, nor emotions, nor experiences, nor interaction. They have nothing at
> all to do with who you are, and certainly not guiding me, like a lover, to
> your center.

This is what infuriates me about you, Scott. You open your mouth and think that what comes out is the Truth. You can talk to me about literature as much as you want. Your experience with literature is far greater than mine. But don't fucking tell me about music, because you *don't* know what I know about it. What do you know about musical intimacy? I have soloed with a major symphony and have been playing music professionally since I graduated from high school. I play the clarinet full-time plus some, practice and perofrmances and rehearsals for more than six-hours a day. So don't tell me you're a fucking expert just because you studied in France.

>I'm trying to refrain from making a tasteless joke here, as I've
> held back from all the things I could have said about playing the clarinet.
> Please admire my tact and honorable restraint.

I don't. If you have something to say, say it. If not, don't bother to mention it. Spit it out, let's have it.

> Art and science (They're the same thing as
> everyone from Pythagorus to Da Vinci clearly understood.) are an attempt by
> man to impose order on what appears to be chaos.

Thank you. Here's something that actually hints at the question I asked with total sincerity. You never did fully answer me.

I can't say that I don't care what you think. If I didn't, I wouldn't have posted it. But if you think that the fine education you received in Europe is superior to the fine education I received on a living room floor in Edmonton, you're wrong. You said that nothing bad has happened to you, but you still feel hatred, scorn, and loathing. And many bad things have happened to me and they didn't turn me into a mean drunk. I can live through horror and fear and shame and come out of it optimistic. They don't teach that in your fine schools. You don't have to be tortured to be brilliant, to suffer to be an artist.

NIchelle

From: Nichelle
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: Sale of Two Titties

> The others are
> probably college girls interested in what a bad-ass intellectual has to say.

Maybe we all ought to get cheerleader outfits.

From: VeritasLuxMea
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: Lux et Veritas

> You must be a Yalie.
No, Andover and Harvard.

> I don't know about your cyberbf, but aparently he hasn't answered. Rectum vinum.
He is not cybrbf. Real world bf. Just because of distance we e-mailed much along w/ calls and so on.

From: David
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: WWW

Scott,

Who the fuck am I? I am a friend of Nichelle's, who has been forwarding some of this correspondence to me. Deal with it.

While you are obviously a smart guy, I find you highly amusing. You seem to be a classic and cliched example of someone who cannot converse with the world, choosing instead to erect his own Mt. Everest from which to theorize in totalizing fashion. And just as every totalizing logic requires that its "True" propositions be subject to endless repetition in order that they will remain as such, you are not one to let us forget your superiority in matters where Truth is concerned. But the need for repetition betrays an essential insecurity. Seeing as you were educated in La France, you have undoubtedly read Derrida, who maintains (I paraphrase) that inherent within any text's logic of intelligibility are the very means by which that logic can be undone. Fearful of your undoing, you must don your professorial gown and lecture our Nichelle on her natural inferiority before the pillar of truth. A pillar which, if left ignored, might be supplanted by another paradigm. All that marches under the banner of truth are paiper-maiche cut-outs.

In other words Scott, you know your position of insecurity as Most High, and therefore must seek to impishly assert it at every instant so that we ordinary proles do not forget. You remind me of black turtleneck-wearing "poets" with their little books, in which they scribble and scribble their mantras which no one will ever read. Yes Scott, you *are* the Most High, for your pain is your pain, and none of us with ever climb the pillar on which we could join with you in a dialectical resolution that would bring about the culmination of Geist, manifested as (your) Superego. I suppose Nichelle should be satisfied with the fact that you even deign to compliment her character. (Like she needs you to boost her self-esteem.)

Your use of "France" is particularly amusing. Apart from the elitist and classist (forgive my 'doggerel') tone evident in such an affirmation, what better way to show your inherent superiority than to invoke the semiotics of "France," which call to mind an urbane sophistication lacking in us Yankees and an instant identification with the "Intelligentsia" (whoever they are). Not to mention that "France" is oh so fucking sexy.

Well, I'm trying to refrain from making a tasteless joke here. Please admire my tact and honorable restraint, as we continue to admire you for your unshakeable conviction to speak the Truth wherever such is called for.

Very truly yours,
David

From: Brown_Sugar
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: Mr. Old, Smart, and Well Educated Ass

Thank you Nichelle. I am 18 years old. And yes I agree with the fact that Scott is likeabel but sometimes he is just out of control.

Tyisha

From: Brown_Sugar
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: WWW

Scott,
I know you do not care but could you refrian from using the derogatory terms bitch and nigger because they are not greatly appreciated by me.

Tyisha

From: Nichelle
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: WWW

> Scott,
> I know you do not care but could you refrian from using the derogatory
> terms bitch and nigger because they are not greatly appreciated by me.
>
> Tyisha

Or by any of us.

Nichelle

From: Brown_Sugar
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: Lovescript

I agree with you completely wild.

Tyisha

On Mon, 4 Mar 1996, CARLTON&PETRINA wrote:
> He sure has a way with words, doesnt he?

From: Brown_Sugar
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: Sale of Two Titties

Maybe Scott should get a cheerleader outfit as well since we are "bad smart ass bitches" and intellectuals as well who Scott wants to listen to.

Tyisha

On Mon, 4 Mar 1996 Nichelle wrote:
> > The others are
> > probably college girls interested in what a bad-ass intellectual has to say.
>
> Maybe we all ought to get cheerleader outfits.

From: Brown_Sugar
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: WWW

Dammit Scott you are so fucking arrogant and SOMETIMES I like for that attribute.

Tyisha

From: Brown_Sugar
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: WWW

Thanks Nichelle...Nice to know I have support from someone. :)

Tyisha

On Mon, 4 Mar 1996 Nichelle wrote:
> > Scott,
> > I know you do not care but could you refrian from using the derogatory
> > terms bitch and nigger because they are not greatly appreciated by me.
> >
> > Tyisha
>
> Or by any of us.
>
> Nichelle

From: Brown_Sugar
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Returned Mail (Errors)

Scott,
Are you still having problems with the mail because I keep getting back the same email addresses that I discussed with you before. How soon will this problem be taken care of because it is annoying. Thanks for your prompt attention in this matter.
Sincerely,

Tyisha

From: Vicki
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: Horse training

Hello Scott,

My name is Vicki, just turned 36, and found you extremely appealing.

I had to run!
I too would consider myself small, mean, and a polyglot intellectual! Love horses and did ride in Yorba Linda. I went to one college out there, Cal Poly, Pomona and earned one of my two degrees. I love life and all living things and the activities that bring me closer to nature......lol (a real animal at heart).

Tell me more about yourself, your interests, hobbies, and intellectual attributes (most appealing).

Vicki

From: Francesca
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: FW: WWW

shallow childish unimaginative prosaic

i'm flattered

gash

ps please take me off yr listserve as i am on a free email service and i have a limited amount of Etraffic i can receive..so this is my work space rather than my research zone

From: Keith
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: Lovescript

it grows it grows and now i'm misguided... ohh no... i hope i'll be ok
(gasp!)
and as for scott gabe or what ever the hell he terms himself... i think
you will all find that asking him to refrain from this.. or to do this or
that is a lost cause... he thinks he knows everything...
a real night mare of classical education... where everything is carved in
stone and shakespaer (sorry gabe...) is the penultimate...
and if you dont see it... just inferior...
but who every has a problem with cynicis...please stop
it's silly
and so as this madness gets started... we will all sit back and learn?
maybe
but it seems to me that it's rapidly headed for name calling... bitch
nigger mother fucker fuck you no fuck you no FUCK you
and on and on...
tyshia i can picture the resopnse... hell it could already have
been written (i rean out of disk space) and sitting on the server...
"p.c...... first amendment rights ... blacks use it.... why cant i...."
i dunno... i dunno
i just dont know

From: Loretta
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Hey?!

I KNOW that i met you on LambdaMOO but what's going on NOW? Who in the
world is Keith? Would you fill me in?

From: SAGReiss
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: (no subject)

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From: SAGReiss
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Overwhelmed

I have not the slightest idea where to begin, I have just received two dozen e-mail messages. Your attacks on me, which I gratefully ackowledge, fall just a little bit short on one small point. You are all here because I wanted you here. This expanding monsterpiece is just the product of my will, a figment of my imagination. And I set it up intentionally to be as democratic and anarchistic as possible. You see, you all can depose me as figurehead king of this moo at any time. Indeed you could kick me right off it simply by continuing amonst yourselves and excluding my address. (By the way, would Loretta and Carlton and Petrina please send me their proper e-mail addresses. Mine is going to change soon and I want to make sure no one gets lost, while getting anyone off who wants to leave. Please cooperate with me on this by always answering my last letter.) I really don't care if you do, for I can set up another as easily as I set up this one. I lead only as far as you let me, based on whatever moral and intellectual authority you give me. You see? I've got you right where I want you, in a bind, a catch-22. If I'm such a miserable asshole, why are you here listening to me and fueling my boundless ego and hunger for e-mail? Why do you put up with my drunken, foul-mouthed self? And no, Jeff knows me too well not to know that I will not abstain from using words like bitch or cunt or even (And I have slight hesitations on this one, since I do get drunk every night in the hood with the bros.) nigger. Freedom of speech means freedom of speech. What I put in my e-mail is not equivalent to shouting fire in a crowded theatre by any means. So, now I'll go through your very-much appreciated letters and try to answer specific points. Rectum vinum and a vos souhaits. Now David, of course I'm very familiar with Derrida. I'm a linguist formally trained in structuralist theory. I think I have just shown you how I willingly and willfully included in this 'net the seeds of my own downfall, the undoing of my own perverted logic. I secret from eachother and thus been a true tyrant and ruled this without challenge. I didn't want any more power than you would give me and, as I said, you can take it away at any time. And yes you are climbing my Mt Everest in as much as you are contributing and participating in this experiment. Oh, yes, thank you Loretta. Please send me your dress sizes. I'm ordering the cheerleader outfits, UCONN colors, one of the few universities which I have actually not attended, but it's my home state (I went to Yale and Southern CT among a dozen others) and they have a great basketball team which earned my twenty bucks when I gave Syracuse 8 points and UCONN won by nine. Also their girls team is very sexy. You write much better, Nichelle, when you are angry and I'm pretty good at creating some very creative anger. What you should look for in Charles Ives, also from CT and Yale, is me, for his esthetic theories are the closest anyone comes to mine. It's a theory of imperfection or exploded letters (Sorry about the terminology, but...) Chuck though he could write music like the sound of two orchestras playing different songs at once, like people singing out of key, pitch tempo etc. If you think about it a 100 piece orchestra is never in synch, they just pretend to be, but Chas said what if i wrote the music like that? And that's how I write, badly, wildly, weirdly, boring, whatever. John Cage and Rauschenberg are cunts, munchkins, peanuts, ham and eggers. The best author next to me is Harry Mathews and his best books are Tlooth (not a misprint) and The Sinking of the Odradek Stadium. Suffering is a very democratic institution, not confined to artists and maniacs like myself. Jeff, who hides behind the fake name Keith to protect his identity (There's so many womens here he's affraid he'll be the next one to get raped.) this is not going to degenerate into name-calling because I won't let it, not that there's much I can do about it, but I can try. You all know I like you, or someone I like likes you (Please do invite yourwhine about my evil mind and vile tongue.) or else you wouldn't be here. I have created this as a writing workshop. We're writing a collective novel, but it can be anything your imagination wants it to be. Any other questions I have forgotten about? I didn't say you were misguided, Jeff, except I guess by going to Syracuse, but you seem to have made up for that mistake. By the way where the fuck did you come up with "a real night mare of classical education"? I thought you were my friend. How could you say that about your ex-French teacher? Shiiit I gave you a B+ and you only got an 84 on the exam. I should turn you in for guilty knowledge about our cheating on the final and my fucking Calamity Kate and giving her an A. And last, Shakespeare is not the penultimate (next but last to those of you in our studio audience) but the ultimate, the nec plus ultra, the best, even better than I...

From: Brian
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: Recent submission

I am aware of it, but am not sure what you'd like me to do with it, considering I'm only reading for the Pocket Rocket Prize until 6/96. Are you thinking I should publish it on the Web?

Brian, Editor/Publisher
Permeable Press

From: SAGReiss
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Nixon's granddaughter

I didn't know my printer could do drawings. You see I'm just learning about 'puters and the 'net. How can you say you're mean when you love life and all living things? I hate and loathe life and scorn the living things known as human beings. I am a trained linguist who has studied comparative literature in about 12 schools, at none of which eared a degree. My first profession was as an English teacher in France where I stayed ten years until they kicked me out. My second profession is waiter right now in a hotel restaurant. My calling is as a writer and I've written a couple of books, one of which I still hope to get published. I speak French and German and am trying to learn Spanish from the dishwashers. I have no hobbies except the www and the internet and smoking and drinking, not a very attractive date, but I am good in bed and even at cybersex. I don't know what you expected. I'm just trying everything out. Is this some kind of dating service?

From: SAGReiss
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: BABEL

Brian,

Thank you for your propt answer. I'm interested in finding a publisher for the book in real life not on the Web. Would it possibly be acceptable for the Pocket Rocket Prize, or any other of your collections? Could you put me in contact with someone who would be willing to look at the whole thing? Does the novel sound appealing to you at all? I'm sorry, that's a lot of questions. I'm sure you know how it is for an intellectual to work in a restaurant waiting tables and waiting for his luck to change.

Thank you for your time.

Respectfully,

Scott Alexander Gabriel Reiss

From: Brian
Date: 5 March 1996
Subject: Re: BABEL

I'd certainly be willing to read it in the context of the Pocket Rocket Prize contest. All you'd have to do is enter it. You can get the rules from my web site (tho it sounded like you already read them?) or I can mail them to you along with an entry form. If you're worried about the format of the book not fitting the rules of the contest, don't worry about it. The main reason I didn't want the author's nake of every page was because I'm using a bunch of freelance readers for this project and didn't want a name to influence a reader's judgement. In your case, as in a couple of others, I'd simply read the book myself.

Best,

Brian, Editor/Publisher
Permeable Press

From: Nichelle
Date: 6 March 1996
Subject: mail?

My account has been fucked up today, I assume because I exceeded my space quota. If there have been any messages in the last 24 hours, could you please forward them to me? (I got all 400 of Tyisha's messages last night, so don't bother with those.)

Nichelle

From: SAGReiss
Date: 6 March 1996
Subject: Now

If you get this please answer immediately. Why don't we go to lambda and talk. I'd really like to talk to you in real time.

From: Nichelle
Date: 6 March 1996
Subject: Re: Now

I haven't been able to send email... I tried to get you, but couldn't.

Nichelle

From: Nichelle
Date: 6 March 1996
Subject: Re: Now

Ah, it works. I have no time now, but I'd like to talk also. Let me know when you're around on the MOO.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 6 March 1996
Subject: Right away

I'm going on lambda this minute. Look for a guest in the quiet room called small, mean, polyglot, intellectual, or any old guest.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 6 March 1996
Subject: Hic et nunc

Sorry I had some trouble getting on I'll wait a bit for an answer then go back on lambda. Please answer.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 6 March 1996
Subject: Lambda

Alright, I'll go on now and you can find me whenever you like. I'll be a guest called small, mean, polyglot intellectual.

From: Nichelle
Date: 6 March 1996
Subject: Re: Hic et nunc

Hi. I had a clarinet lesson to deal with. I'll check to see if you're still around. I'm around on and off tonight, before and after an orchestra concert. I hope to run into you.

Nichelle

From: SAGReiss
Date: 6 March 1996
Subject: You are all assholes

This shit is too much for words. Nichelle and I managed to find eachother on the 'net. We met in lambda and some other chickenshit MOO. She more or less seriously offered me cybersex and I more or less seriously declined. We joked about rape and whatnot, but she had to go too soon, far too soon. For those of you who are interested we have a cyberdate tomorrow afternoon at three NY time on lambda. All are welcome. As I told her this evening, in six months I'll be able to quit my job and do this full-time for pay. If only fucking Jeff would give me Jude's e-mail. I'll pay him $20 an hour, Jeff, in cash, up front.
Could you please send him over here to make my 'pputer system work like it should? The only delicate item is how to make people pay for our services. I suggest we get a web site which will show a different e-mail every day chosen at random so no one holds the floor. We simply ask for donations to adhere, tax-deductible of course. We'll set up a non-profit organization. I'm sure we could earn enough to live on. Shiiit with all this e-mail I hardly have time to drink. Well I don't feel like dealing with myself, so I'll go cause some trouble on lambda or MSN. Everyone on the latter already knows that last night I got drunk and called some cunt a cunt. I may not last a week on that fucking MOO.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 6 March 1996
Subject: Re: You are all assholes

By the way and i must be getting to sleep now for i work tomorrow. i make a special plea to corinne to please introduce herself and write us a little. i know you're shy, mais s'il te plait ecris-nous quelque chose. je suis sur que tout nos amis l'apprecieront. Je t'emprie vraiment, Corinne, ecris-nous.

From: Brown_Sugar
Date: 6 March 1996
Subject: Re: your mail

Scott You are such an intelligent ass and I will always like you even if you do say hateful things to me at times. But I want to know what were you trying to say in this email?

Tyisha

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From: SAGReiss
Date: 6 March 1996
Subject: SAGR code

What's the matter, Tyisha, can't crack the code? It must be that Bell Curve thang... Oops, just kidding, actually I tried to send you all a word file, the text of my cyberdate with that other girl. Obviously it didn't work. Maybe I'll show you some of the e-mail I wrote her. She, like everyone else in my life for the past fifteen years or so, couldn't keep up with my voracious hunger for words, spitting them out twenty-four hours a day almost. I barely eat or sleep anymore. At the bar Mister Betsy and Lou, not Sweet Lou he's another one of my legendary students, never came to class, but spoke the best French, he deserved an F but I gave him a C+, he got out the best line of the whole weird, crazy semester, at the first exam, i had to call him from my office: "Lou this is your French teacher. Get your ass down here. We're having a fucking exam." so he shows up looks at the exam for about five minutes, stands up and says: "Fuck this shit. I've got better things to do. Can I bum a cigarette off you?" I gave him a smoke and he stormed out, Sweet Lou, where are you when I need you? Anyway Betsy and Lou are mad at me because they feel I've been neglecting them. I had to buy them a drink yesterday to calm them down. I often wonder how a short white boy can just walk past the crack houses in the ghetto day and night with a lot of cash in his pocket and nobody touches him. I think Anthony, the bouncer at Cosmos, must have put the word out on the street: "Don't fuck with our white boy." He's a very bad dude, 350 pounds of very sober muscle. Hell I know most everyone on the block. The panhandlers don't even ask me for money anymore, just walk up and ask how it's going. I'm always good for a few bucks in change. Hell, I won't roll anything but quarters. The idea of making people pay for this shit is bugging me. I think my idea about donations won't work, but I remember my indignation at the Cafe Orbital when they asked for one franc per minute. What do you all think about this. I need a secretary real bad. I'm going to rubring myself to spend the time cleaning up my inbox and sent mail box, but it must be done. Corinne and Jeff please give me Jude the Obscure One's e-mail address. I will pay him to do the job. Shiiit, I may not even need you fuckers. I'm in e-touch with a publisher and it seems right... Besides with my new software from IDT and AT&T, I can create my own web site, I think, if I figure out how. I can't believe that crazy, paranoid bitch scaredycat is coming to NY and won't come here and do this for me. I have never met such a dazed and confused person. I've got to go to work soon so I'll just chat a bit and see you all at 3PM NYtime on lambda. Ciao.

From: Nichelle
Date: 6 March 1996
Subject: Email problems

I don't know what the problem is, but for some reason, I'm way over quota and I'm not getting all of my email. Please forward any mail from yesterday, and I'll try to get this thing worked out today so I won't have to ask again. Thanks, and see you at 3.

Nichelle

From: Nichelle
Date: 7 March 1996
Subject: Fucking Insomniacs


> This shit is too much for words. Nichelle and I managed to find eachother on
> the 'net. We met in lambda and some other chickenshit MOO. She more or less
> seriously offered me cybersex and I more or less seriously declined.

Don't flatter yourself, honey. I don't "more or less" offer cybersex. Either I do, or I don't. And I didn't. You didn't even buy me a cyber-dinner, or any fucking cyber-roses. Some date you are.

> For those of
> you who are interested we have a cyberdate tomorrow afternoon at three
> NY time on lambda. All are welcome.

Wow. I didn't read this until about four hours after we talked. We could have had an orgy. Next time Scott invites you all on a date with me, I will expect you all to show up.

Actually, a lot came of that meeting. We came to the conclusion, right
before I had to leave for rehearsal, that I just "need a good fuck" and
that that would cure my insomnia. This ought to put the Sominex company
out of business. If this e-novel doesn't work out, you could always go
into business curing insomniacs. Nice work if you can get it.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 7 March 1996
Subject: Re: Fucking Insomniacs

Don't even try to play these silly games with me, stiff lips, I know an offer when I see one. If you hadn't been pressed for time this afternoon, you would probably have attempted to cyberrape me and (to tell the truth) I don't know how much resistance I would have shown. That's exactly what I mean about being no good at seduction, but good at sex, although you can ask Corinne and Jeff I always pay for drinks, dinner, give roses and whatever. I'm old school compared to you all. The first time Corinne and Jeff came to my flat I scolded Jeff for going to the bathroom before Corinne, and he said: "We don't do that shit anymore." By the way whatsyourfuckingname from some weird mid-western state i said to Nichelle that i thought your letter was quite well-written. Only problem is you have fallen into my well-laid trap. Either you continue to answer and confirm my conception of this list or you shut up and me and Nichelle will go on the web in a week or two and you will be left behind. Nichelle, you're dealing with a very smart man. I did invite them all, and I was very drunk when I did, but I was still smart enough not to tell them how to find lambda, and if they knew, how to find us. How would they have known your nickname? Hell you can probably ask Corinne what Katie said about my cock and my lovemaking. We were both pretty drunk, but I remember very clearly the number her mouth played on my dick. She was at least as good in bed as the 94 she earned on her final.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 7 March 1996
Subject: Re: Fucking Insomniacs

Sorry she got a 96 (inverted 69) on the final, and besides you clearly offered me, and I more or less clearly offered you (or perhaps it's the contrary) sex irl, so fuck your bf in the Mid-West.

From: Nichelle
Date: 7 March 1996
Subject: Re: SAGR code

One more thing, before I take off for my rehearsal tonight. Hoard your secrets. They are not safe here.

You see, the text does not belong to you. The minute you hit the key to send it, it is the property of everyone on this list. Maybe you knew this already. My text, which I shared with you in complete trust has been forwarded to several other people without my permission.

Now here's the thing I don't understand. I send the text to Scott, he says something like, "I'm not going to send it to the list, but I hope you will do it yourself." But then he goes off and sends it around without asking me. That makes absolutely no sense to me. If I had known this would happen, would I have sent it anyway? I'm not sure.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 7 March 1996
Subject: Re: SAGR code

Yeah, so I sent the fucking text to my mother, so what? And yes this is a public forum. Did any of you ever think about sending my letter concerning Saddam Hussein to the hotel and getting me fired? Well, you could do that. I'm not hiding. No text belongs to its author. "Je est un autre". How is it that you talk about taking a plane to Syracuse and feeling my big cock in you in my bed and then turn around and accuse me of dishonesty? Especially when I admitted it to you. Anyone here who wants to hide his or her secrets can just as well fuck off and go spamm on some other MOO 'cause I'll cut your ass out of here anyway. In a week or two I'll have a web site publicized by IDT and AT&T, so I can choose the number of members. Anyone who simply wants to read the lessons of my life and mind without contributing anything will be bounced.

From: Brown_Sugar
Date: 7 March 1996
Subject: Re: SAGR code

Ha ha ha!!! Very funny Scott.
Bye,

Tyisha

From: Brown_Sugar
Date: 7 March 1996
Subject: Re: SAGR code

Damn Scott What the hell is wrong with your ass. Did you wake up on the wrong side of the bed this morning? LIghten up if that is possible. I hate seeing you angry because the intelligence that you supposedly have is not properly exuded in the right fashion when you are angry. Just an opinion.
Chow,

Tyisha
P.S. How is everyone on this list doing? Have not heard much from you except for Nichelle. Come on now talk to me. :) Bye.

From: Brown_Sugar
Date: 7 March 1996
Subject: Re: Overwhelmed

Hi Scott Tis I Tyisha once again to work your nerves. :)
I understand that I am here because you want me here but understand that I am here because I want to be here as well.
Why do I put up with your Bullshit and constan arrogance? Because I enjoy doing so. I like to see what makes you tick or go off and I think that to some extent I have been pretty successful. Now as for your freedom of speech I totally agree with you; I would never think of infringing on anyones rights but just remember that when you call me niggger or bitch that you offend me immensely and each time you do that Scott you loose just a little more respect that I had for you in the beginning. Now I am sure that everyone like to be respected in everyway possible. For me personally it is something that I value and cherrish immensely. I have my freedom of speech as well and I just wanted everyone to know where I stood even if you don't give a damn. And I'm out, Tyisha

From: Brown_Sugar
Date: 7 March 1996
Subject: Re: Fatigue

Scott, In all seriousness I want you to be careful because you talk about getting drunk too often and I do not want you to lose your job okay? All I am saying is that you be careful.

Tyisha

From: Brown_Sugar
Date: 7 March 1996
Subject: Re: Lovescript

Yes Keith. I agree that telling Scott to refrain from doing something that he has already done once or more maybe a waste of my time but I do not think that it is futile. I think that Scott knowing that someone is taking offense to his name calling will give him something to think about even if it is for a brief second. As for the statements of blacks saying the word nigger...welll while that may be true all blacks do not say that at all (like me) and so what if they do say...it does not give other people the go ahead to insult those who take offense to that word. Thats like saying that just because SOME blacks use that insulting word that it's okay for everyone else to use, which in my opinion is totally ludicrous. Now it would be futile for me to say that this has nothing to do with the fact that I am black because I would be lying.

Peacefully,

Tyisha
P.S. I would like to add that when blacks do use that word that it is for the most part not used as an insult like when other ethnicities use it.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 7 March 1996
Subject: Fat white bitches revisited

You girls can try that shit on your undergrad bfs, but not on a man of calibre. First, Miss Brown Suga, I'm not talking about gentrified blacks like you, Corinne (Her mother is from Madagascar, but her father is a French dentiste.) or Jude the Obscure One (His old man works for the CT state prison system. He is the Man.) I have sat in that bar every night for more than a year with the pimps, whores, bookmakers, drugdealers and assorted boys in the hood who occasionally get drunk and talk about sticking a knife in your ass, white motherfucker. Everybody in there has been to prison and owns a gun and I'm the only one with a 'puter and a steady job. I even saw the guy who broke into my flat while I was sleeping, so I know of what I speak. When they say (And it was Jeff's argument, not mine, that they say it too.) "Don't give them niggas a drink," is that s'posed to be a compliment? I recently stated to some kind of radical feminist cyberpornographer that misogyny is just a refinement of misanthropy, and I reserve the right to hate every race and religion with equal wrath. As for you, Miss Stiff Lips, don't think you can truss up our MOO conversations 'cause I got the script, I just don't know how the fuck to send it. And I didn't say: "More or less offered" but "More or less seriously offered" there's a big difference.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 7 March 1996
Subject: Re: Hey?!

This MOO is going to migrate, so if you don't send your proper, complete e-mail address to MSN very soon, you won't be with us any longer. I'm sorry and I hope to hear from you.

From: Keith
Date: 7 March 1996
Subject: Re: Lovescript

please read closer.. or perhpse i just cant write... i had anticipated
seeing that in the infamous ones(oh ego) response to your request.. and i
did not anticipatye... not do i need a lecture on the semantice behind
that word.. although.. last night an interesting with 2 yo boy white kid
ex-cons did raise some interesting questions...
yo boy 1 (yb1)- yea kid we aint livin fast like before no niggas on the
corner schemin to be takin yo shit...
yo boy 2 (yb2)- aint seen noneadem niggas on the coner no beefIN no shootIN
etc.
both done time
both been bangin.. latino style
since they were 16
some howteh situation is different...
isnt it
????????
as for this whole fucking thing.. how mastubatory... like art
like lityerature like music
like life
just another fucking game... sometimes (appearentlyzy) a half assed
scheme to get laid
and sometimes...

From: David
Date: 7 March 1996
Subject: Re: Fat white bitches revisited

Scott, I am sick of you. Take me off of this fucking list.

David

From: SAGReiss
Date: 7 March 1996
Subject: The Man

Trying to figure out whether we were going to get slammed as we did yesterday when a group of eighty people walked in from out of nowhere and took over the restaurant, I asked a member of that group who came to breakfast this morning which conference they came from. "Justice Department." I smiled and said: "Uh oh, I'll try not to do anything illegal. Then again it's not so easy to break federal law." "We can always find something. All you have to do is cross a state line." You fucking nazi swine from Maryland. I hate the law. I even hate the so-called Masters (wizards on MSN) whom I call O Illustrious One or Beloved Leader or Meister whenever I ask them a question. Just to be on the safe side I apologized to that girl I called a cunt: "Your two dumb friends, Fast and Sun, told me I should apologize to you, so I apologize." "Dumb?" "Well they are dumb. You don't mean to tell me I can't say that in this chat?" She said my apology lacked sincerity. Tyisha, could you please translate Jeff's black English for me? I hardly understood a word, but, as your ex-future French teacher, I approve. Jeff has a calligraphic epistolary style and he used to close his letters with his motto, don't let them destroy you. "a half-assed scheme to get laid"? This is going to be my own private brothel cum psych ward cum writer's workshop and I don't see anything half-assed about it. You're just jealous you didn't think of it first. I'm already designing my Web site in my mind, polyglot porn, but none of those low-rent quotations, no lists of favorite songs or movies, just some poetry, "Marie please fuck me", a letter, perhaps the inaugural one, that way my parents could never come on without being reminded of their terminal guilt and sin, and perhaps each of you, the charter members of the list, would care to contribute something. It's really too bad Calamity Kate isn't here to do the artwork. I don't know if I'm up to the job. Jeff, do you know any snivelling co-ed in the art school who would like to do it and might even give a littlis a lot of name-calling on this list, but don't tell me you're like those nitwits on the 'net who can't take a little passion or emotion 'cause I know better. You like a good fight as much as I and so what if a little blood is drawn? Last night this silly nineteen-year-old slut on MSN was doing some stupid cybersex routine and I asked her if she really thought she could turn anyone on like that? "You just want a piece of my pussy. You're jealous." "Darling, I don't think you could give me a hard on if you tried all night." She bet me she could, so we went to a private room where she continued her SUCKS YOUR COCK histrionics for half an hour as I tried to explain to her that she might more profitably begin with something like: "Unbuttons the top button of her shit." Finally I levelled with her and told her to pick on someone her own size, that she had no chance in Hell of ever exciting me. It was mean and ugly, but it had to be done. Besides it was pedagogical and maybe she'll learn something. Oh, yes, by the way, Nichelle, this may be just a way to comfort my guilty conscience, but I did not want to put your text in a public forum. Once you did that, with people unkown to you, handpicked by me, it seemed to me not really that immoral to continue to give the text to others unknown to you of my choosing. I couldn't ask your permission, for I would simply have found the answer No unacceptable and I never ask a question unless I'm prepared to accept any possible answer. I'm sorry, again. It's obviously not something I'm proud of. USAToday carried an excerpt of John Updike's new novel. It's such cliche-ridden trash I couldn't even get to the end of the first sentence. It's rot, eyewash. He can't write his way out of a paper bag. I can't believe I'm having trouble publishing a novel as superior to his. He should be shot and put out of his misery. I'm off tomorrow so I'll be online until I get so drunk someone throws me off. I'll probably spend my time in one of the sex rooms lambda starting fights and not getting anew software from that dickass IDT. I'll be checking my e-mail often. If anyone would like to join me, feel free. I can't go on DU, Tyisha, 'cause they hate me so much they got me thrown off two servers, SU and Delphi shortly after we met. Adieu.

From: David
Date: 7 March 1996
Subject: Re: The Man

Scott, I repeat, take me off this list of yours. You bore me.

David

From: Nichelle
Date: 8 March 1996
Subject: Re: The Man

> Oh, yes, by the way, Nichelle, this may be just a way
> to comfort my guilty conscience, but I did not want to put your text in a
> public forum. Once you did that, with people unkown to you, handpicked by me,
> it seemed to me not really that immoral to continue to give the text to others
> unknown to you of my choosing. I couldn't ask your permission, for I would
> simply have found the answer No unacceptable and I never ask a question unless
> I'm prepared to accept any possible answer.

I understand why you did that. Just try to have some respect for what you have there. It isn't so much the matter of sharing it with strangers on the net that scares me. It's the threat of that creeping back here, to the people I live with every day. Be careful with that thing, because it could really fuck me up if the wrong people read it.

In that particular case, I would have said yes.

From: Nichelle
Date: 8 March 1996
Subject: Re: Fucking Insomniacs

> Don't even try to play these silly games with me, stiff lips, I know an offer
> when I see one. If you hadn't been pressed for time this afternoon, you would
> probably have attempted to cyberrape me and (to tell the truth) I don't know
> how much resistance I would have shown.

I'm not trying to play games. I'm not denying what I said to you on Lambda. I don't even care if you post it. I have said nothing I am ashamed of. I just don't think that any of it was a blatant offer to have sex, on the moo or in person, as you seem to have interpreted it. And cyberrape isn't really a very appropriate word. There is a difference between rape and seduction, quite a big one, and it does really matter to me that you use the proper term.

> Nichelle, you're dealing with a very smart man. I did invite them all, and I
> was very drunk when I did, but I was still smart enough not to tell them how
> to find lambda, and if they knew, how to find us. How would they have known
> your nickname?

I announced to to everyone in my email a few days back when you asked us where we all MOO.

From: Nichelle
Date: 8 March 1996
Subject: Re: SAGR code

> How is it that you
> talk about taking a plane to Syracuse and feeling my big cock in you in my
> bed and then turn around and accuse me of dishonesty?

Okay, that's a fair call. Of course this isn't the whole story, just a fragment of what was said, out of context. And what you have done is make me question whether I ought to trust you, which I why I got so defensive. You know, if we did fuck you'd probably post the dimensions of my pussy to everyone on this list, how good it was or wasn't, and what grade you would have given me in your French class. But in all fairness, I do owe you an apology.

> Anyone here who wants to hide his or her secrets can just
> as well fuck off

You see, that's the weird thing. I keep doing the same shit, even though experience tells me not to. I will continue to post things that I would prefer to keep among a small group. I suspect you will continue to send them around, and it wasn't just to your mother.

From: Nichelle
Date: 8 March 1996
Subject: Do rapists kiss their victims?

Kind of an interesting question, actually. It's strange, because it is such a repulsive thought to me. When my stepfather kissed me, I squirmed and fought and ran to my room to cry. I wonder why he kissed me. I didn't have any love for him, that was clear, and he had to hold me there while I struggled to be able to do it. It isn't just an act of violence. It depends on the situation. It has to do with perversion and lust, and yes they do, and in a way it's the worst part.

When I think about being raped, I think about a violent asshole, holding me down, calling me a whore, telling me how he fucked my mother. But when I think of a rapist kissing a victim, I feel pity.

I was involved in a relationship witha guy named Don for two or three years. It was a pretty good relationship, actually. We were a good match. But sometimes, when we had sex, I would get scared. It's understandable. I would shake, or cry, I would push him off of me. He didn't understand how I felt at that moment. It was horrible. A few times it upset him so much he just left me there.

At those moments, I think I was able to see inside of the mind of a rapist. I wanted to hurt him so that he could understand me. I wanted him to know what it meant to be raped. There were times when I attacked him with complete sexual violence. He enjoyed it, and it made me angrier. I don't think he ever knew that I felt that violence when I was with him. When we broke up, he told me that I needed to just get on with things and not dwell on them anymore. Sweep them under the carpet.

In a way it's the most fucking twisted thing a rapist can do. To kiss their victim. Stroke their cheek before they smack them across the face.

From: Brown_Sugar
Date: 8 March 1996
Subject: Re: Fat white bitches revisited

Temper temper

Tyisha

From: scaredycat
Date: 8 March 1996
Subject: Junk Mail

I'm still getting messages from your pals, it's becoming a niusance. i have limited disc space on this account and it's a pain having to erase messages all the time. i would be very happy if you could get them not to send to me.
-CC

From: SAGReiss
Date: 8 March 1996
Subject: Kiss and tell

It's too hard for me to attempt a global commentary on your messages. I must take them line by line, so some of the first stuff may not apply to the eventual whole. Please bear with me. First, there is no such thing as privacy in the age of cybernotics. Your friend has begged off, from De Paul. Once we get on the Web and a real, non-moderated listserve, no one will be able to control this thing, and we shall all find ourselves in extremely vulnerable positions. There's no such thing as safe sex. That is a risk we agree to take, or you sign off as David did. We are the charter members and have the option not to take part in the public version of this. This is still, but not for long my private 'net. Think about it, all of you. Unfortunately I don't know how to post the scripts I've got, with you Nichelle or with others. If none of it was a blatant offer to have sex what does "I'm interested in what you have to offer" mean? or "The bed will do just fine"? or whatever you said about my fat prick? or taking out your frustrations on the devil's penis (clarinet)? Please don't misunderstand me, I'm not blaming you or saying anything bad. I see nothing wrong with sex, vr or irl. But to claim you didn't offer me real and virtual sex (actually you offered virtual to which I said no, and I offered real to which you said yes) is just such a lie I can't believe you'd try to slip it past me. I was using the term rape, and it was very clear in your answers that you understood my irony, in a figurative way. We were playing and you knew it. My jokes may be in poor taste, but I was obviously not suggesting you come here to be cut up with a rasor. You are probably right that I would describe intimate details of our lovemaking to our listserve. When I slept with Katy the next morning I wrote a letter about it to Corinne and Jeff, which Jeff immediately sent to Katy. I did thrash him in a subsequent e-mail, but I'd do the same thing again. My life is second to literature. Actually it wouldn't matter this time 'cause I'd send the mObviously I know nothing (and most probably never will) about the dimentions of your pussy, but that's a pretty complex question. I would be more likely to talk about other things. Corinne and Jeff can send you some letters about Katy if they want. From the time I've spent with you my guess is you're pretty good in bed, or if not could learn, which is just as good. I haven't sent any other of your messages except the seminal (excuse the pun) rape text, and I did that only to show that I wasn't the only literary light on this 'net. Alright, it was my mother and two other girls and I won't do it again. Maybe I should just get my mother on the line and then you'll see what a fat white bitch can be like at its worst. By the way, when I asked you if you were a FWB I meant are you really fat irl. I'm not sure you interpreted it that way. We, I should say me Corinne and Jeff are all scrawny. And I owe you all the apologies. We've already been through that. You see in your last and best letter how you avoid the stupid cliches: "Rape is a crime of violence/power/hat(red) not of sex." Of course it's perversion and lust and if, as we both envisioned at least potentially, I made love to you in my bed, those same passions and some of those same acts would come to the fore. There's no such thing as safe sex. Actually the most moving part of your rape letter was when the third guy talked to you, trying in some insane way to make contact with you and to explain his pathological act. "under the carpet" after what we said about my preferring to rape you in bed to avoid carpet burns?

From: Nichelle
Date: 8 March 1996
Subject: Re: Kiss and tell

A few quick comments on your message...

> If none of
> it was a blatant offer to have sex what does "I'm interested in what you have
> to offer" mean?

Actually, this particular comment had nothing whatsoever to do with sex. In total honesty, I can tell you that I was thinking about the many other things you have to offer.

> We were playing and you knew it.

Yeah, that's what I thought it was. And I said some very clearly sexual things, and the fact is, the next time we meet on the moo, I'll probably say more things like that. That's just part of the way I am. Doesn't mean I'm going to fly to Syracuse and hop in your bed... This whole thing is way out of proportion anyway. I probably would have had cybersex with you, even though it wasn't on my mind at the time, and I really shouldn't be such a jerk about it.

> By the way, when I asked you if you were a FWB I meant are you really fat
> irl. I'm not sure you interpreted it that way.

Yeah, I did interpret it that way, and yeah I'm definitely not scrawny. I wouldn't say that I'm really *fat*, but I'm certainy a bit overweight. And yeah, there is a relationship between the weight and the rapes, because I put it on right after I was raped in high school, though most of it has come off since then too.

> You see in your last and
> best letter how you avoid the stupid cliches: "Rape is a crime of
> violence/power/hat(red) not of sex." Of course it's perversion and lust and
> if, as we both envisioned at least potentially, I made love to you in my bed,
> those same passions and some of those same acts would come to the fore.

Well, it is (or can be) a violent act too. But it isn't just about violence. It's tough to separate the two, sex and violence, and I think that saying it is one and not the other is a way of avoiding what is really going on. The hardest thing for me to do is to understand the mind of the rapist, to sympathize, to understand what happens, what happened to me. When you think of it as a sexual act as well, it really changes things. Take the first time as an example... This is a high school kid, spending the night with me, and I was a pretty little girl, too. Children are beautiful and I wasn't really a scrawny kid, either. I was tall, blond, long legs, big beautiful blue eyes, and here's this hormonal kid, thinking of nothing but his dick all day long, seven days a week. And here I was sleeping on his bedroom floor!? I'm sure it was similar for my stepdad. I think most people have those thoughts, and just don't act on them.

> "under the carpet" after
> what we said about my preferring to rape you in bed to avoid carpet burns?

Didn't even think about it. Though I wish I had....

Nichelle

From: Nichelle
Date: 8 March 1996
Subject: Quick note

Are we cool with this whole thing? Frankly, I'm sick of talking about it. The more I think about it, the more I think I was just mad about you forwarding the email thing, and felt some weird tension about it with Dave, which I think you sensed also.

It's not worth fighting about, because I probably would have had cybersex with you, just didn't want to admit I was that attracted to you. And I really don't like everyone to know about that stuff, either.

One other thing. Your life may come second to literature, but mine does not. Keep that in mind.

From: Nichelle
Date: 8 March 1996
Subject: Re: Kiss and tell

Could you also forward a copy of the email titled Do rapists kiss their victims? I didn't save a copy, for some reason, and I'd like to have one.

From: Nichelle
Date: 8 March 1996
Subject: Nichelle, Internet Masochist

I had a long discussion with Dave tonight. He can't figure out what I see in you or in the list. And I had a difficult time trying to explain it to him. I think it's more than my boredom and isolation, because there are a lot of ways to deal with that.

Myabe you can explain to me why you think you ought to share every intimate detail of our conversation with the list. That would help. Should I trust you? I guess it doesn't matter, since I do. I don't understand you. I don't mean that in a negative way.

I guess I should just push ahead, knowing that whatever I say is not mine the minute it leaves my mouth, and just get on with it. I get defensive easily. One way or another, I really enjoyed chatting with you on the MOO, and I wouldn't mind doing it again soon. I guess the problem is me, not you, and that my friendship with Dave and his presence on the list made me uncomfortable. If you want to find me there, I'll probably be on the MOO a lot tomorrow. Email me, if you like.

I feel like just bitching about my life, but what I really need is sleep, so I'm going to give it a try. I'm a chronic insomniac and I sleep about 3-4 hours on weeknights. I ought to stay up and teach myself German and French so I can read your book...

-Stiff-lips

From: SAGReiss
Date: 8 March 1996
Subject: Late night phone calls

I too had a late-night conversation, a very rare pleasure, talking to Corinne. You see I seldom use the phone and they almost never answer theirs, so just hearing her beautiful voice (We spoke both French and English.) was a rare thrill. Fuck Jude, he's too hard to reach. Once I get both the IDT and AT&T software, I'll just put a few notes up on campus offering $20 an hour to set up a web site, a mail exploder and a non-moderated listserv and this will take right off. I'm not going to bother about trying to make people pay. I haven't got time for that shit. I'll just wait tables the rest of my life. Now as to your mail, Nichelle. I have no idea what I have to offer if not sex, poverty and drunkeness. We can have cybersex or sex irl or not, it's up to you. It's just part of the game, part of life. I've made some very leecherous overtures to Corinne in letters I knew Jeff was reading, so (I repeat) fuck Dave. If I'm not worried about a man of calibre like Jeff, I'm certainly not going to worry about a punk like Dave. Rape of course is a very violent act, but then so can normal sex be. As you say, it's tough to seperate the two. Whatever her name Andrea Dworkins or something like that (a radical lesbian seperatist) said that sex for a man is indistinguishable from giving pain to women. She is not entirely wrong. The Marquis de Sade was not crazy, he was just a little weird, and an artist, like you and me. There really is no such thing as consent. Corinne and Jeff don't ask permission from eachother to fuck, they just do it. Maybe they should make their own Nike commercial. Of course everyone has those thoughts. I (having never left the teenage hormonal stage) think of raping every reasonably attractive woman I see. The difference is in what the French call the passage a l'acte. I'm too much a physical coward to try it. I may be a mental giant, but I'm just a skinny white boy at heart. Of course given the proper circumstances, war in Bosnia for instance, we could all turn into Kurtz. He after all was a skinny inteamazed I can still quote things verbatim that I haven't read in ten years. Your life, my life, all of our lives are quickly going to become inseperable from literature, so you might think about that, but I'm sure you've come too far already to turn back. We have become cyberbeings. Big Brother isn't listening. We're e-mailing him. Every detail of our intimate beings will go on the 'net. If we have cybersex, I'll e-mail the cybersex to the list, which really only includes Tyisha, you, Corinne and Jeff for the moment, but you can all see how fast that may change. You ask why. You ask if you can trust me. Why? I don't know. My whole life has been building up to this and I'm sure as Hell not affraid to push on into some unknown world of my own making. Can you trust me? I have already told you that our every move, vr or irl, will go onto the 'net, so what is there to trust me about? And by the way, the attraction is mutual. Even your e-mail gives me a hard on.

From: SAGReiss
Date: 8 March 1996
Subject: Boys n the Web

Nichelle are you sleeping? When will you be on lambda? Here are my thoughts for the Web site. I must still find out about text limits or costs etc. so this might not be materially possible. By the way we are all taking a certain risk going on the Web. While only my real name will appear, for Corinne, Keith, Nichelle, Tyisha, I will substitute La Comecabra, Jeff, Stiff Lips, Brown Sugar. You see, Jeff, there's a method to my madness even if I was drunk a year and a half ago when we met and I misremembered your name, sooner or later we're going to have to deal with some real psychopaths. Hackers may also pose a problem, and of course we all may just get arrested by the brain police. The title is The World According to Gabe. the next line reads "RECTUM VINUM" and clicking on it brings up the inaugural letter. All of the texts will be slightly edited to protect the guilty. Under rectum vinum is Ronsard and Reiss version of Marie please fuck me. Under that reads There's no such thing as virtual reality. Clicking this brings up the raging letter I wrote you the day after my mother's birthday, you remember that tirade. I believe that letter is the emotional heart and structural climax of BABEL. Under that reads There's no such thing as safe sex. Clicking on that brings up me eating out that doctor whom I'll call Dr Geisskopf. Under that reads There's no such thing as paranoia. Clicking on that... any guesses? Will you give me permission, Nichelle? Under that will read Donde es la Comecabra? Clicking on that will bring up a text I hope you'll write in French, just to confuse them, Corinne. Under that will read don't let them destroy you. Clicking on that will bring up a text that you can choose or prepare, Jeff, of your own hand of course. Under that will read There's no such thing as racism. Clicking on that will bring up a text you can write for us Tyisha. What do you all think?

From: SAGReiss
Date: 8 March 1996
Subject: log

SAGR: Karen, I'm sorry. I didn't mean to hurt you and I don't judge you for being divorced.
KCY: it's ok
KCY: can't help that
SAGR: I tend to joke and make fun of everything because the alternative is so painful.
KCY: i know... but i only joke about myself... but not put other people down
SAGR: Well, I'm sorry.
KCY: it's ok
KCY: friends
SAGR: I hope so.
KCY: yes
KCY: friends
SAGR: OK, my friend.
KCY: yes
SAGR: So now can we have cybersex?
KCY: ok
SAGR: Just kidding!!!
KCY: ok
KCY: sure
SAGR: What OK?
KCY: we're friends
SAGR: Good.
KCY: so
SAGR: I thought you didn't do that.
KCY: if you insist
KCY: try
SAGR: How hard should I try?
KCY: not v
SAGR: What color are those panties?
KCY: white
SAGR: If it's that hot perhaps you might feel more comfortable if you removed them.
KCY: ok
SAGR: Can you type with one hand?
KCY: no
SAGR: If you could?
KCY: i'd try
SAGR: But what would you do with the other, idle hand?
KCY: try to seduce me
SAGR: I think I already have.
KCY: lol
SAGR: I'm not sure how this works on this 'net. Can you "do" things or only say things?
KCY: say things only
SAGR: Then this will be a little new to me.
KCY: try
SAGR: caresses your hair.
KCY: ok
SAGR: strokes your left cheek.
SAGR: pulls on your left earlobe.
KCY: wow
KCY: have uuu done this be4?
SAGR: longs to kiss you.
KCY: me too
SAGR: slowly approaches his face to yours.
KCY: mmm
SAGR: thinks about that confernce in May and brings his open mouth to yours.
KCY: yes
SAGR: brushes his lips against yours.
KCY: mmmmm
SAGR: touches his tongue to your upper lip.
KCY: yes
KCY: please
SAGR: presses his warm mouth to yours, embracing you in his arms.
SAGR: searches your tongue with his.
SAGR: takes off his ugly bathrobe and slippers never ceasing to kiss you.
SAGR: puts his hands through your hair.
KCY: yes
SAGR: rubs his face against yours.
KCY: i feel good
SAGR: kisses your right eye.
KCY: mmm
SAGR: holds you shoulders.
SAGR: kisses your nose.
SAGR: licks your left eyebrow.
SAGR: runs his hands down your back.
KCY: mmmmmmmmmmmmm
KCY: yummy
KCY: i like that
SAGR: kisses you on the mouth again.
KCY: mmmmmmmm
SAGR: runs his hand between your cheeks.
KCY: i would kiss your hand
SAGR: caresses your ribs on both sides.
KCY: mmmmmm
SAGR: feels your ribs and in between them.
SAGR: kisses you.
KCY: and i 'd press my lips against your
SAGR: caresses your shoulders.
SAGR: kisses your neck.
SAGR: licks and gently bites your neck.
KCY: mmmmmmmm
SAGR: kisses your hair.
SAGR: kisses your neck again.
SAGR: wants to taste your lips again.
SAGR: bites your lips feverish with desire.
SAGR: kisses you.
KCY: wow
SAGR: licks your lips.
KCY: i'd touch u as well
SAGR: massages your shoulder blades.
SAGR: kisses your right shoulder.
KCY: you're nice
SAGR: lightly touches your left nipple.
SAGR: runs his index finger around your left nipple.
KCY: they're erected
SAGR: fondels both of your breasts.
SAGR: kisses your throat.
SAGR: caresses your breasts more firmly.
SAGR: moves his head down between your breasts licking you.
KCY: i'd arch my back
KCY: hold u tight
SAGR: massages your ribs and kisses your right nipple.
KCY: mmmmmmmmmmm
KCY: goshhhhhhhhhh
SAGR: licks and softly bites your right nipple.
KCY: aahhhhhhhh
SAGR: fondels both breasts and sucks your right nipple.
SAGR: kisses your left breast so it won't get jealous.
SAGR: licks it around the nipple.
KCY: youre making me smile
SAGR: We can even joke in bed, darling.
SAGR: bites you.
KCY: that's nice
SAGR: kisses you between the breasts.
SAGR: licks you between the breasts rubbing them with his hands.
SAGR: lowers his head.
KCY: are these from your new book?
KCY: lol
SAGR: feels your hips and kisses your stomach.
SAGR: The first time I had cybersex is in the book.
KCY: i'd move my hip in a slow motion
KCY: lol
SAGR: kisses your stomach.
KCY: mmmm
SAGR: I've only done this three or four times.
SAGR: licks your stomach.
SAGR: moves his hands back to your breasts.
SAGR: licks your belly-button.
SAGR: lowers his head and kisses the bottom of your stomach.
SAGR: kisses your pubic hair.
SAGR: massages your thighs.
KCY: mmmmmm
KCY: you'renice
SAGR: kisses your right thigh.
SAGR: kisses your right thigh and fondels your left.
SAGR: runs his index finger down the inside of your left thigh.
SAGR: kisses your right knee.
SAGR: kisses and licks you behind the kneecap.
SAGR: runs his mouth over your right calf.
SAGR: kisses your right ankle.
SAGR: kisses your right foot.
SAGR: licks between the toes.
SAGR: sucks your big toe.
KCY: you're so senusal
SAGR: kisses the bottom of your foot.
SAGR: moves his head to the left foot.
SAGR: fondels your thighs.
SAGR: sucks your toes.
KCY: mmmmmmmmmmm
SAGR: kisses your left knee.
SAGR: kisses the inside of both thighs.
SAGR: puts his head near your vagina.
SAGR: breathes on your vagina.
SAGR: kisses your pubic hair.
KCY: i'm so wet
SAGR: lightly touches your clit with the tip of his tongue.
SAGR: flicks his tongue at your clit.
SAGR: licks your clit firmly.
SAGR: brushes his lips against your clit.
SAGR: licks it throbbingly.
SAGR: bites it tenderly.
SAGR: takes it in his mouth.
KCY: you're good
SAGR: massages it between his lips and with his tongue.
SAGR: licks your clit with an increasing rhythm.
SAGR: licks it faster.
KCY: mmmmmmm
SAGR: sucks it into his mouth.
SAGR: thrashes your clit with his impatient tongue.
SAGR: gently touches your vulva with his right index finger.
SAGR: runs his finger up and down your lips while licking your clit furiously.
SAGR: runs his tongue down your lips and licks you pereneum.
SAGR: flicks his tongue in your anus.
SAGR: licks your anus.
SAGR: runs his tongue back up to your swollen clit.
SAGR: bites it and licks it.
SAGR: eases a finger up your vagina while licking your clit.
SAGR: asks how you are feeling.
KCY: geart
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